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		<title>Comment on The education racket&#8230; by MoneyedPoliticians</title>
		<link>http://moneyedpoliticians.net/2012/02/10/the-education-racket/#comment-9247</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Feb 2012 13:55:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ll give you that in some cases the liberal arts classes are handy, but those don&#039;t need to be taxpayer-paid. And I&#039;m pleased to hear that taxpayers are not picking up the $76M. But is this center needed, and should the school use the dollars more wisely? Like, for reducing tuition?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll give you that in some cases the liberal arts classes are handy, but those don&#8217;t need to be taxpayer-paid. And I&#8217;m pleased to hear that taxpayers are not picking up the $76M. But is this center needed, and should the school use the dollars more wisely? Like, for reducing tuition?</p>
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		<title>Comment on The education racket&#8230; by GreggP</title>
		<link>http://moneyedpoliticians.net/2012/02/10/the-education-racket/#comment-9223</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 17:54:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh come on, Jack...

I didn&#039;t receive a &quot;liberal arts&quot; degree (mine was engineering related), but i can certainly see the value in one. Most of the people I know that take part in the creative side of product development have a liberal arts degree. At the UW-Madison, the Computer Science, Physics, Biology and Mathematics departments are all under the School of Letters &amp; Science. And I thought everyone getting a degree within L&amp;S was getting a &quot;liberal arts&quot; degree. Here&#039;s an argument for the benefits of a liberal arts education (I&#039;m sure you can find thousands more):

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/michael-roth/whats-a-liberal-arts-educ_b_147584.html

As far as the $76.8 million athletic shindig - &quot;we&quot; didn&#039;t pay for it, unless we purchased a ticket to an athletic event or provided a donation directly to the athletic department. The UW-Madison Athletic Dept. does not receive any financial support from the State of Wisconsin or the UW System. It is financed entirely from ticket sales and donations from supporters. That includes the building of Athletic Dept. facilities. As for all the other schools in the UW System, their athletics are all funded by the UW System and the State of Wis. 

Other than that... I agree with much of what you said ;-).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh come on, Jack&#8230;</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t receive a &#8220;liberal arts&#8221; degree (mine was engineering related), but i can certainly see the value in one. Most of the people I know that take part in the creative side of product development have a liberal arts degree. At the UW-Madison, the Computer Science, Physics, Biology and Mathematics departments are all under the School of Letters &amp; Science. And I thought everyone getting a degree within L&amp;S was getting a &#8220;liberal arts&#8221; degree. Here&#8217;s an argument for the benefits of a liberal arts education (I&#8217;m sure you can find thousands more):</p>
<p><a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/michael-roth/whats-a-liberal-arts-educ_b_147584.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.huffingtonpost.com/michael-roth/whats-a-liberal-arts-educ_b_147584.html</a></p>
<p>As far as the $76.8 million athletic shindig &#8211; &#8220;we&#8221; didn&#8217;t pay for it, unless we purchased a ticket to an athletic event or provided a donation directly to the athletic department. The UW-Madison Athletic Dept. does not receive any financial support from the State of Wisconsin or the UW System. It is financed entirely from ticket sales and donations from supporters. That includes the building of Athletic Dept. facilities. As for all the other schools in the UW System, their athletics are all funded by the UW System and the State of Wis. </p>
<p>Other than that&#8230; I agree with much of what you said <img src='http://s1.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> .</p>
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		<title>Comment on Sensenbrenner could not be more wrong&#8230; by MoneyedPoliticians</title>
		<link>http://moneyedpoliticians.net/2012/02/03/sensenbrenner-could-not-be-more-wrong/#comment-9160</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2012 17:20:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, Medicare has problems but private healthcare is worse. I spent 40 years in the healthcare industry billing both. Single-payer isn&#039;t perfect but you wouldn&#039;t like what is better (the V.A. system). See these &lt;a href=&quot;http://nader.org/index.php?/archives/2348-Follow-the-Bills.html&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;price differences&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;...

And incidentally, it is reprehensible that you and the liberals are using the classroom for political gain.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, Medicare has problems but private healthcare is worse. I spent 40 years in the healthcare industry billing both. Single-payer isn&#8217;t perfect but you wouldn&#8217;t like what is better (the V.A. system). See these <a href="http://nader.org/index.php?/archives/2348-Follow-the-Bills.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><em><strong>price differences</strong></em></a>&#8230;</p>
<p>And incidentally, it is reprehensible that you and the liberals are using the classroom for political gain.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Sensenbrenner could not be more wrong&#8230; by Scott David</title>
		<link>http://moneyedpoliticians.net/2012/02/03/sensenbrenner-could-not-be-more-wrong/#comment-9158</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2012 16:49:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[On my way to class to once again instill into my 31 students that the Medicare is going broke.  And yes, I tell them that single payer is evil.  I am sick of just the liberals being able to use the classroom for political gain.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On my way to class to once again instill into my 31 students that the Medicare is going broke.  And yes, I tell them that single payer is evil.  I am sick of just the liberals being able to use the classroom for political gain.</p>
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		<title>Comment on &#8220;Protecting capitalism&#8230;&#8221; by jacksmith</title>
		<link>http://moneyedpoliticians.net/2012/02/06/protecting-capitalism/#comment-9121</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2012 18:26:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[REALITY!! And A Fix for Unemployment, Homelessness and Hunger

In addition to fixing healthcare the right way we need a NewDeal. We need a permanent and updated FDR WPA (Works Progress Administration).  A Full employment act requiring the government to provide a job for everyone able to work that wants to work at a living wage or better. At safe, meaningful work where they live. Guaranteed by the US government. With free or very affordable excellent healthcare and free or very affordable education and training for advancement or just personal enrichment.

( http://my.firedoglake.com/iflizwerequeen/2011/05/16/how-about-a-little-truth-about-what-the-majority-want-for-health-care/ )

( Gov. Peter Shumlin: Real Healthcare reform -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yFUbkVCsZ4 )

( Health Care Budget Deficit Calculator --  http://www.cepr.net/calculators/hc/hc-calculator.html )

( Briefing: Dean Baker on Boosting the Economy by Saving Healthcare http://t.co/fmVz8nM )

START NOW!

As you all know. Had congress passed a single-payer or government-run robust Public Option CHOICE! available to everyone on day one, our economy and jobs would have taken off like a rocket. And still will. Single-payer would be best. But a government-run robust Public Option CHOICE! that can lead to a single-payer system is the least you can accept. It&#039;s not about competing with for-profit healthcare and for-profit health insurance. It&#039;s about replacing it with Universal Healthcare Assurance. Everyone knows this now.

The message from the midterm elections was clear. The American people want real healthcare reform. They want that individual mandate requiring them to buy private health insurance abolished. And they want a government-run robust public option CHOICE! available to everyone on day one. And they want it now.

They want  Drug re-importation, and abolishment, or strong restrictions on patents for biologic and prescription drugs. And government  controlled and negotiated drug and medical cost. They want back control of their healthcare system from the Medical Industrial Complex. And they want it NOW!

THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WILL NOT, AND MUST NOT, ALLOW AN INDIVIDUAL MANDATE TO STAND WITHOUT A STRONG GOVERNMENT-RUN PUBLIC OPTION CHOICE! AVAILABLE TO EVERYONE.

For-profit health insurance is extremely unethical, and morally repugnant. It&#039;s as morally repugnant as slavery was. And few if any decent Americans are going to allow them-self to be compelled to support such an unethical and immoral crime against humanity.

This is a matter of National and Global security. There can be NO MORE EXCUSES.

Further, we want that corrupt, undemocratic filibuster abolished. Whats the point of an election if one corrupt member of congress can block the will of the people, and any legislation the majority wants. And do it in secret. Give me a break people.

Also, unemployment healthcare benefits are critically needed. But they should be provided through the Medicare program at cost, less the 65% government premium subsidy provided now to private for profit health insurance.

Congress should stop wasting hundreds of millions of dollars of taxpayer money on private for profit health insurance subsidies. Subsidies that cost the taxpayer 10x as much or more than Medicare does. Private for profit health insurance plans cost more. But provide dangerous and poorer quality patient care.

Republicans: GET RID OF THE INDIVIDUAL MANDATE.

Democrats: ADD A ROBUST GOVERNMENT-RUN PUBLIC OPTION TO HEALTHCARE REFORM.

This is what the American people are shouting at you. Both parties have just enough power now to do what the American people want. GET! IT! DONE! NOW! 

If congress does not abolish the individual mandate. And establish a government-run public option CHOICE! before the end of 2011. EVERY! member of congress up for reelection in 2012 will face strong progressive pro public option, and anti-individual mandate replacement candidates.

Strong progressive pro &quot;PUBLIC OPTION&quot; CHOICE! and anti-individual mandate volunteer candidates should begin now. And start the process of replacing any and all members of congress that obstruct, or fail to add a government-run robust PUBLIC OPTION CHOICE! before the end of 2011.

We need two or three very strong progressive volunteer candidates for every member of congress that will be up for reelection in 2012. You should be fully prepared to politically EVISCERATE EVERY INCUMBENT that fails or obstructs &quot;THE PUBLIC OPTION&quot;. And you should be willing to step aside and support the strongest pro &quot;PUBLIC OPTION&quot; candidate if the need arises.

ASSUME CONGRESS WILL FAIL and SELLOUT again. So start preparing now to CUT THEIR POLITICAL THROATS. You can always step aside if they succeed. But only if they succeed. We didn&#039;t have much time to prepare before these past midterm elections. So the American people had to use a political shotgun approach. But by 2012 you will have a scalpel.

Congress could have passed a robust government-run public option during it&#039;s lame duck session. They knew what the American people wanted. They already had several bills on record. And the house had already passed a public option. Departing members could have left with a truly great accomplishment. And the rest of you could have solidified your job before the 2012 elections.

President Obama, you promised the American people a strong public option available to everyone. And the American people overwhelmingly supported you for it. Maybe it just wasn&#039;t possible before. But it is now.

Knock heads. Threaten people. Or do whatever you have to. We will support you. But get us that robust public option CHOICE! available to everyone on day one before the end of 2011. Or We The People Of The United States will make the past midterm election look like a cake walk in 2012. And it will include you.

We still have a healthcare crisis in America. With hundreds of thousands dieing needlessly every year in America. And a for profit medical industrial complex that threatens the security and health of the entire world. They have already attacked the world with H1N1 killing thousands, and injuring millions. And more attacks are planned for profit, and to feed their greed.

Spread the word people.

Progressives, prepare the American peoples scalpels. It&#039;s time to remove some politically diseased tissues.

God Bless You my fellow human beings. I&#039;m proud to be one of you. You did good.

See you on the battle field.

Sincerely

jacksmith – WorkingClass :-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>REALITY!! And A Fix for Unemployment, Homelessness and Hunger</p>
<p>In addition to fixing healthcare the right way we need a NewDeal. We need a permanent and updated FDR WPA (Works Progress Administration).  A Full employment act requiring the government to provide a job for everyone able to work that wants to work at a living wage or better. At safe, meaningful work where they live. Guaranteed by the US government. With free or very affordable excellent healthcare and free or very affordable education and training for advancement or just personal enrichment.</p>
<p>( <a href="http://my.firedoglake.com/iflizwerequeen/2011/05/16/how-about-a-little-truth-about-what-the-majority-want-for-health-care/" rel="nofollow">http://my.firedoglake.com/iflizwerequeen/2011/05/16/how-about-a-little-truth-about-what-the-majority-want-for-health-care/</a> )</p>
<p>( Gov. Peter Shumlin: Real Healthcare reform &#8212; <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yFUbkVCsZ4" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yFUbkVCsZ4</a> )</p>
<p>( Health Care Budget Deficit Calculator &#8212;  <a href="http://www.cepr.net/calculators/hc/hc-calculator.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.cepr.net/calculators/hc/hc-calculator.html</a> )</p>
<p>( Briefing: Dean Baker on Boosting the Economy by Saving Healthcare <a href="http://t.co/fmVz8nM" rel="nofollow">http://t.co/fmVz8nM</a> )</p>
<p>START NOW!</p>
<p>As you all know. Had congress passed a single-payer or government-run robust Public Option CHOICE! available to everyone on day one, our economy and jobs would have taken off like a rocket. And still will. Single-payer would be best. But a government-run robust Public Option CHOICE! that can lead to a single-payer system is the least you can accept. It&#8217;s not about competing with for-profit healthcare and for-profit health insurance. It&#8217;s about replacing it with Universal Healthcare Assurance. Everyone knows this now.</p>
<p>The message from the midterm elections was clear. The American people want real healthcare reform. They want that individual mandate requiring them to buy private health insurance abolished. And they want a government-run robust public option CHOICE! available to everyone on day one. And they want it now.</p>
<p>They want  Drug re-importation, and abolishment, or strong restrictions on patents for biologic and prescription drugs. And government  controlled and negotiated drug and medical cost. They want back control of their healthcare system from the Medical Industrial Complex. And they want it NOW!</p>
<p>THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WILL NOT, AND MUST NOT, ALLOW AN INDIVIDUAL MANDATE TO STAND WITHOUT A STRONG GOVERNMENT-RUN PUBLIC OPTION CHOICE! AVAILABLE TO EVERYONE.</p>
<p>For-profit health insurance is extremely unethical, and morally repugnant. It&#8217;s as morally repugnant as slavery was. And few if any decent Americans are going to allow them-self to be compelled to support such an unethical and immoral crime against humanity.</p>
<p>This is a matter of National and Global security. There can be NO MORE EXCUSES.</p>
<p>Further, we want that corrupt, undemocratic filibuster abolished. Whats the point of an election if one corrupt member of congress can block the will of the people, and any legislation the majority wants. And do it in secret. Give me a break people.</p>
<p>Also, unemployment healthcare benefits are critically needed. But they should be provided through the Medicare program at cost, less the 65% government premium subsidy provided now to private for profit health insurance.</p>
<p>Congress should stop wasting hundreds of millions of dollars of taxpayer money on private for profit health insurance subsidies. Subsidies that cost the taxpayer 10x as much or more than Medicare does. Private for profit health insurance plans cost more. But provide dangerous and poorer quality patient care.</p>
<p>Republicans: GET RID OF THE INDIVIDUAL MANDATE.</p>
<p>Democrats: ADD A ROBUST GOVERNMENT-RUN PUBLIC OPTION TO HEALTHCARE REFORM.</p>
<p>This is what the American people are shouting at you. Both parties have just enough power now to do what the American people want. GET! IT! DONE! NOW! </p>
<p>If congress does not abolish the individual mandate. And establish a government-run public option CHOICE! before the end of 2011. EVERY! member of congress up for reelection in 2012 will face strong progressive pro public option, and anti-individual mandate replacement candidates.</p>
<p>Strong progressive pro &#8220;PUBLIC OPTION&#8221; CHOICE! and anti-individual mandate volunteer candidates should begin now. And start the process of replacing any and all members of congress that obstruct, or fail to add a government-run robust PUBLIC OPTION CHOICE! before the end of 2011.</p>
<p>We need two or three very strong progressive volunteer candidates for every member of congress that will be up for reelection in 2012. You should be fully prepared to politically EVISCERATE EVERY INCUMBENT that fails or obstructs &#8220;THE PUBLIC OPTION&#8221;. And you should be willing to step aside and support the strongest pro &#8220;PUBLIC OPTION&#8221; candidate if the need arises.</p>
<p>ASSUME CONGRESS WILL FAIL and SELLOUT again. So start preparing now to CUT THEIR POLITICAL THROATS. You can always step aside if they succeed. But only if they succeed. We didn&#8217;t have much time to prepare before these past midterm elections. So the American people had to use a political shotgun approach. But by 2012 you will have a scalpel.</p>
<p>Congress could have passed a robust government-run public option during it&#8217;s lame duck session. They knew what the American people wanted. They already had several bills on record. And the house had already passed a public option. Departing members could have left with a truly great accomplishment. And the rest of you could have solidified your job before the 2012 elections.</p>
<p>President Obama, you promised the American people a strong public option available to everyone. And the American people overwhelmingly supported you for it. Maybe it just wasn&#8217;t possible before. But it is now.</p>
<p>Knock heads. Threaten people. Or do whatever you have to. We will support you. But get us that robust public option CHOICE! available to everyone on day one before the end of 2011. Or We The People Of The United States will make the past midterm election look like a cake walk in 2012. And it will include you.</p>
<p>We still have a healthcare crisis in America. With hundreds of thousands dieing needlessly every year in America. And a for profit medical industrial complex that threatens the security and health of the entire world. They have already attacked the world with H1N1 killing thousands, and injuring millions. And more attacks are planned for profit, and to feed their greed.</p>
<p>Spread the word people.</p>
<p>Progressives, prepare the American peoples scalpels. It&#8217;s time to remove some politically diseased tissues.</p>
<p>God Bless You my fellow human beings. I&#8217;m proud to be one of you. You did good.</p>
<p>See you on the battle field.</p>
<p>Sincerely</p>
<p>jacksmith – WorkingClass <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on Sensenbrenner could not be more wrong&#8230; by MoneyedPoliticians</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Feb 2012 00:09:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[John, I am not convinced. RomneyCare has succeeded in increasing health costs in Massachusetts, and ObamaCare resulted from similar insurance bribes as was RomneyCare. It is a doomed system, and though I agree that it is a small step forward for some, it delays meaningful reform for the masses. I am totally supportive of single payer, but this isn&#039;t it. And with 25 state attorney&#039;s suing to nullify it, I&#039;m hoping they win. But THEN we must get serious and pass single-payer.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John, I am not convinced. RomneyCare has succeeded in increasing health costs in Massachusetts, and ObamaCare resulted from similar insurance bribes as was RomneyCare. It is a doomed system, and though I agree that it is a small step forward for some, it delays meaningful reform for the masses. I am totally supportive of single payer, but this isn&#8217;t it. And with 25 state attorney&#8217;s suing to nullify it, I&#8217;m hoping they win. But THEN we must get serious and pass single-payer.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Sensenbrenner could not be more wrong&#8230; by John</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 19:00:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Poor people will not spend part of their food money on coverage. You&#039;ve heard of Medicaid? That will still be there. Plus the poor and middle class will be heavily subsidized to buy coverage. 

The Affordable Care Act is not terrible, it&#039;s a baby step in the right direction, and is currently reforming the private sector as we speak. I&#039;ve blogged about the massive changes, and possible removal of the insurance industry completely. 

Think about what Sensenbrenner is saying, that the single payer system worldwide, that comes in at half the cost, will not come in at half the cost and even be more expensive. His proof is where?

Sorry Jack, on this one, a swing and a miss.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Poor people will not spend part of their food money on coverage. You&#8217;ve heard of Medicaid? That will still be there. Plus the poor and middle class will be heavily subsidized to buy coverage. </p>
<p>The Affordable Care Act is not terrible, it&#8217;s a baby step in the right direction, and is currently reforming the private sector as we speak. I&#8217;ve blogged about the massive changes, and possible removal of the insurance industry completely. </p>
<p>Think about what Sensenbrenner is saying, that the single payer system worldwide, that comes in at half the cost, will not come in at half the cost and even be more expensive. His proof is where?</p>
<p>Sorry Jack, on this one, a swing and a miss.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Let&#8217;s improve and expand BadgerCare! by MoneyedPoliticians</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jan 2012 19:52:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And blind conservatives...]]></description>
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		<title>Comment on Let&#8217;s improve and expand BadgerCare! by Conservative Digest</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jan 2012 19:48:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, let us tax all committed Liberals to pay for this.]]></description>
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		<title>Comment on How our politicians sold out America by MoneyedPoliticians</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jan 2012 13:10:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You are absolutely correct Paul, but how do we fix it?]]></description>
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		<title>Comment on How our politicians sold out America by Paul Armstrong (@p_armstrong)</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul Armstrong (@p_armstrong)]]></dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Our politicians sold out out jobs for money and now they are selling our liberty for money.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our politicians sold out out jobs for money and now they are selling our liberty for money.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Double political terms but limit them to ONE! by MoneyedPoliticians</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jan 2012 21:24:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good questions, Gregg. Clearly a lot of thought would need to go into this, but I would hope that it eliminates some partisanship. And I think a recall capability would be needed (we have it at state but I don&#039;t know about federal). Also, if we could eliminate the partisanship the 80% would be a hurdle but not impossible.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good questions, Gregg. Clearly a lot of thought would need to go into this, but I would hope that it eliminates some partisanship. And I think a recall capability would be needed (we have it at state but I don&#8217;t know about federal). Also, if we could eliminate the partisanship the 80% would be a hurdle but not impossible.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Double political terms but limit them to ONE! by GreggP</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jan 2012 20:59:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is an interesting proposal. I like the possibility that elected politicians won&#039;t need to start raising money for their next campaign. This might discourage people that are not really interested in public service. 

This might even help with our current partisan gridlock. Maybe a member of a political party would support legislation proposed by someone in another party if the policy was something they agreed with, instead of immediately going against the opponent for political reasons. We&#039;ve all heard many examples of Republicans rejected policies proposed by Obama or other democrats, even ones that originated with republicans, simple to beat them politically. Didn&#039;t the repubs say their #1 priority was to make sure Obama didn&#039;t serve a 2nd term?

However, if a 2 year term becomes a 4 year term, and a 4 year term becomes 8 years. What happens if we have another politician who, with the help of his corporate donors, gets elected and pushes through policies that weren&#039;t mentioned during his campaign, but these policies anger a large segment of the voters? Can he still be recalled? 

And regarding the corporate donors, how would this discourage them from supporting a candidate from the beginning? They still retain the same corrupt system we have today with the revolving door between politician and lobbiest still intact. I think we would still want campaign spending limits or public funding.

As for the 80% rule. I doubt any politician (even Proxmire or Nelson) would be popular enough to win 80% of the votes. The staunch Republicans would never vote for a Democrat, no matter how good they are...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is an interesting proposal. I like the possibility that elected politicians won&#8217;t need to start raising money for their next campaign. This might discourage people that are not really interested in public service. </p>
<p>This might even help with our current partisan gridlock. Maybe a member of a political party would support legislation proposed by someone in another party if the policy was something they agreed with, instead of immediately going against the opponent for political reasons. We&#8217;ve all heard many examples of Republicans rejected policies proposed by Obama or other democrats, even ones that originated with republicans, simple to beat them politically. Didn&#8217;t the repubs say their #1 priority was to make sure Obama didn&#8217;t serve a 2nd term?</p>
<p>However, if a 2 year term becomes a 4 year term, and a 4 year term becomes 8 years. What happens if we have another politician who, with the help of his corporate donors, gets elected and pushes through policies that weren&#8217;t mentioned during his campaign, but these policies anger a large segment of the voters? Can he still be recalled? </p>
<p>And regarding the corporate donors, how would this discourage them from supporting a candidate from the beginning? They still retain the same corrupt system we have today with the revolving door between politician and lobbiest still intact. I think we would still want campaign spending limits or public funding.</p>
<p>As for the 80% rule. I doubt any politician (even Proxmire or Nelson) would be popular enough to win 80% of the votes. The staunch Republicans would never vote for a Democrat, no matter how good they are&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Walker&#8217;s choice&#8230; Wisconsin or the Koch Brothers! by MoneyedPoliticians</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jan 2012 13:33:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks Steve. Indeed I&#039;d rather pay $5 per year to pay for political campaigns, whereas they are currently costing me over $1000 in government giveaways. And to readers I&#039;d recommend going to his web site.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Steve. Indeed I&#8217;d rather pay $5 per year to pay for political campaigns, whereas they are currently costing me over $1000 in government giveaways. And to readers I&#8217;d recommend going to his web site.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Walker&#8217;s choice&#8230; Wisconsin or the Koch Brothers! by Steve Busalacchi</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve Busalacchi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jan 2012 12:39:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Right on. I have a client so fed up with money in politics, he hired me to go to Maine and interview key figures over the regarding their campaign finance law. $5 contributions win the day for 80% of the Maine Legislature! See my report at www.cleanwisconsinpolitics.com.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right on. I have a client so fed up with money in politics, he hired me to go to Maine and interview key figures over the regarding their campaign finance law. $5 contributions win the day for 80% of the Maine Legislature! See my report at <a href="http://www.cleanwisconsinpolitics.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.cleanwisconsinpolitics.com</a>.</p>
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