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		<title>By: MoneyedPoliticians</title>
		<link>http://moneyedpoliticians.net/2009/08/07/we-lost-a-little-bit-of-democracy-in-green-bay/#comment-898</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 19:13:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Stewie, you can indeed condone the other Stewie&#039;s misrepresentation and use of your moniker, though most of us prefer not lying. But so be it, this issue has brought a lot of that to the forefront. 

And while I didn&#039;t vote for Obama, I don&#039;t blame him for anything other than rolling over to his corrupt congress. He has the veto pen and let&#039;s hope he uses it if we don&#039;t get a good public option. And remember I said &quot;option,&quot; which means that right-wingers can opt out.

But you are wrong about a single-payer system. We are already paying the costs for one, we just aren&#039;t getting it because the insurance industry is skimming off 31% of our current healthcare costs. And greedy corporate CEOs are outsourcing their jobs to countries that already have universal health care.

Isn&#039;t unfettered capitalism great?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stewie, you can indeed condone the other Stewie&#8217;s misrepresentation and use of your moniker, though most of us prefer not lying. But so be it, this issue has brought a lot of that to the forefront. </p>
<p>And while I didn&#8217;t vote for Obama, I don&#8217;t blame him for anything other than rolling over to his corrupt congress. He has the veto pen and let&#8217;s hope he uses it if we don&#8217;t get a good public option. And remember I said &#8220;option,&#8221; which means that right-wingers can opt out.</p>
<p>But you are wrong about a single-payer system. We are already paying the costs for one, we just aren&#8217;t getting it because the insurance industry is skimming off 31% of our current healthcare costs. And greedy corporate CEOs are outsourcing their jobs to countries that already have universal health care.</p>
<p>Isn&#8217;t unfettered capitalism great?</p>
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		<title>By: Stewie (IP: 75.106.115.161)</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 18:56:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And Mr Obama obviously doesn&#039;t have a clue about the difference between apples (FedX, UPPS) and oranges (USPS); but he sure know something about lemons.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And Mr Obama obviously doesn&#8217;t have a clue about the difference between apples (FedX, UPPS) and oranges (USPS); but he sure know something about lemons.</p>
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		<title>By: Stewie (IP: 75.106.115.161)</title>
		<link>http://moneyedpoliticians.net/2009/08/07/we-lost-a-little-bit-of-democracy-in-green-bay/#comment-896</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stewie (IP: 75.106.115.161)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 18:53:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mr Madison also had it right and he&#039;s likely rolling in his grave to the tune of significant seismic activity in the Pacific Rim.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr Madison also had it right and he&#8217;s likely rolling in his grave to the tune of significant seismic activity in the Pacific Rim.</p>
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		<title>By: Stewie (IP: 75.106.115.161)</title>
		<link>http://moneyedpoliticians.net/2009/08/07/we-lost-a-little-bit-of-democracy-in-green-bay/#comment-895</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stewie (IP: 75.106.115.161)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 18:51:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I honestly think &quot;Stewie&quot; had it right...and I formally condone his use of my moniker is declaring Obama complicit and a charlitan.  The rest of you are all washed up and colluding with the socialist effort to convert us all to a single-payer system that will throw our elderly into the streets and our young people into a future of hopless government oppression.

The only businessperson who would agree to such a plan is someone who already cares not one wit for the employee and cares only to increase their profit margin and consume the labor pool like the nazis and their forced labor camps.  Compassion?  Values?  You businesspeople ought to collude to provide a value-added product that is marketable...oh yeah, you&#039;ll wait &#039;til the government helps you...and then blame the government for what becomes of that union of the minds.

Why so socialist?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I honestly think &#8220;Stewie&#8221; had it right&#8230;and I formally condone his use of my moniker is declaring Obama complicit and a charlitan.  The rest of you are all washed up and colluding with the socialist effort to convert us all to a single-payer system that will throw our elderly into the streets and our young people into a future of hopless government oppression.</p>
<p>The only businessperson who would agree to such a plan is someone who already cares not one wit for the employee and cares only to increase their profit margin and consume the labor pool like the nazis and their forced labor camps.  Compassion?  Values?  You businesspeople ought to collude to provide a value-added product that is marketable&#8230;oh yeah, you&#8217;ll wait &#8217;til the government helps you&#8230;and then blame the government for what becomes of that union of the minds.</p>
<p>Why so socialist?</p>
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		<title>By: MoneyedPoliticians</title>
		<link>http://moneyedpoliticians.net/2009/08/07/we-lost-a-little-bit-of-democracy-in-green-bay/#comment-894</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MoneyedPoliticians]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 15:48:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No Keith, I think you have (the Marquette) Stewie wrong. He&#039;s a &quot;compassionate&quot; conservative from the &quot;values&quot; crowd.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No Keith, I think you have (the Marquette) Stewie wrong. He&#8217;s a &#8220;compassionate&#8221; conservative from the &#8220;values&#8221; crowd.</p>
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		<title>By: Keith Schmitz</title>
		<link>http://moneyedpoliticians.net/2009/08/07/we-lost-a-little-bit-of-democracy-in-green-bay/#comment-893</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Keith Schmitz]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 14:38:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Stewie -- you&#039;re a busy little man, and a racist one as well:

&quot;And those that have, and are raising their voices in opposition, are being colored as unamerican and even racist, simply because the president is colored.&quot;

Wow. And...

&quot;Whaoaa…back-up the camel Husssein!.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stewie &#8212; you&#8217;re a busy little man, and a racist one as well:</p>
<p>&#8220;And those that have, and are raising their voices in opposition, are being colored as unamerican and even racist, simply because the president is colored.&#8221;</p>
<p>Wow. And&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;Whaoaa…back-up the camel Husssein!.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: MoneyedPoliticians</title>
		<link>http://moneyedpoliticians.net/2009/08/07/we-lost-a-little-bit-of-democracy-in-green-bay/#comment-892</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MoneyedPoliticians]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 14:31:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And incidentally, Stewie or Squiggie or Tom or James, or whatever name you chose to use at the moment, understand that blogs log the IP addresses of the commenters, so changing your name to increase your exposure only works if you are not found out. The original Stewie was from Colorado, not Marquette County. 

Stewie        (IP: 65.219.110.180 , fw.co.marquette.wi.us)
Squiggy       (IP: 65.219.110.180 , fw.co.marquette.wi.us)
Tom           (IP: 65.219.110.180 , fw.co.marquette.wi.us)
James Madison (IP: 65.219.110.180 , fw.co.marquette.wi.us)

If you ever want to know your IP go to WhatIsMyip.com]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And incidentally, Stewie or Squiggie or Tom or James, or whatever name you chose to use at the moment, understand that blogs log the IP addresses of the commenters, so changing your name to increase your exposure only works if you are not found out. The original Stewie was from Colorado, not Marquette County. </p>
<p>Stewie        (IP: 65.219.110.180 , fw.co.marquette.wi.us)<br />
Squiggy       (IP: 65.219.110.180 , fw.co.marquette.wi.us)<br />
Tom           (IP: 65.219.110.180 , fw.co.marquette.wi.us)<br />
James Madison (IP: 65.219.110.180 , fw.co.marquette.wi.us)</p>
<p>If you ever want to know your IP go to WhatIsMyip.com</p>
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		<title>By: MoneyedPoliticians</title>
		<link>http://moneyedpoliticians.net/2009/08/07/we-lost-a-little-bit-of-democracy-in-green-bay/#comment-891</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MoneyedPoliticians]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 14:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Don&#039;t confuse technology changes with government inadequacy. UPS and FedEx are package delivery services, and the USPS package delivery is doing just fine. Their private mail system is in trouble because of the Internet and email and electronic billing. And they should indeed cut delivery to 3-days a week. Remember when Fax replaced much of UPS and FedEx overnight deliveries? Remember when we once had pay phones?

Oh, that must have also affected health care? Give me a break.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t confuse technology changes with government inadequacy. UPS and FedEx are package delivery services, and the USPS package delivery is doing just fine. Their private mail system is in trouble because of the Internet and email and electronic billing. And they should indeed cut delivery to 3-days a week. Remember when Fax replaced much of UPS and FedEx overnight deliveries? Remember when we once had pay phones?</p>
<p>Oh, that must have also affected health care? Give me a break.</p>
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		<title>By: Stewie (IP: 65.219.110.180)</title>
		<link>http://moneyedpoliticians.net/2009/08/07/we-lost-a-little-bit-of-democracy-in-green-bay/#comment-890</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stewie (IP: 65.219.110.180)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 13:51:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I could not have predicted this, but maybe I did.  Mr Obama himself made the direct analog of his helthcare proposal to the USPS yesterday at his townhall meeting, how rich!:

Obama:“UPS and FedEx are doing just fine, It’s the post office that’s always having problems.”

Whaoaa...back-up the camel Husssein!

Lets hear that Obama quote on more time:: “UPS and FedEx are doing just fine, It’s the post office that’s always having problems.”]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I could not have predicted this, but maybe I did.  Mr Obama himself made the direct analog of his helthcare proposal to the USPS yesterday at his townhall meeting, how rich!:</p>
<p>Obama:“UPS and FedEx are doing just fine, It’s the post office that’s always having problems.”</p>
<p>Whaoaa&#8230;back-up the camel Husssein!</p>
<p>Lets hear that Obama quote on more time:: “UPS and FedEx are doing just fine, It’s the post office that’s always having problems.”</p>
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		<title>By: MoneyedPoliticians</title>
		<link>http://moneyedpoliticians.net/2009/08/07/we-lost-a-little-bit-of-democracy-in-green-bay/#comment-889</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MoneyedPoliticians]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 13:00:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Letter from NYTimes

What’s wrong with our health care system? The profit margin. Take it out and it’s possible to compare us favorably with other industrialized countries.

Health care isn’t too expensive; insurance is. A single-payer, nonprofit system would lower the cost, allowing insurance for all.

The insurance companies, drug companies and the medical-industrial complex are all fighting for their very lives in fear of a better, cheaper option. Do politicians have the guts to stand up to the special interests?

Definitely not, as both sides of the aisle receive huge contributions intended as bribes to maintain the status quo. If only those entrusted with this responsibility had the courage to do the right thing.
 
What’s the solution? Medicare for all. The cost savings would allow for full coverage for all Americans at reasonable rates and would allow adequate rates for doctors and hospitals. 
America would join the modern world.

Steven Kahn
Princeton, N.J., Aug. 10, 2009]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Letter from NYTimes</p>
<p>What’s wrong with our health care system? The profit margin. Take it out and it’s possible to compare us favorably with other industrialized countries.</p>
<p>Health care isn’t too expensive; insurance is. A single-payer, nonprofit system would lower the cost, allowing insurance for all.</p>
<p>The insurance companies, drug companies and the medical-industrial complex are all fighting for their very lives in fear of a better, cheaper option. Do politicians have the guts to stand up to the special interests?</p>
<p>Definitely not, as both sides of the aisle receive huge contributions intended as bribes to maintain the status quo. If only those entrusted with this responsibility had the courage to do the right thing.</p>
<p>What’s the solution? Medicare for all. The cost savings would allow for full coverage for all Americans at reasonable rates and would allow adequate rates for doctors and hospitals.<br />
America would join the modern world.</p>
<p>Steven Kahn<br />
Princeton, N.J., Aug. 10, 2009</p>
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		<title>By: MoneyedPoliticians</title>
		<link>http://moneyedpoliticians.net/2009/08/07/we-lost-a-little-bit-of-democracy-in-green-bay/#comment-888</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MoneyedPoliticians]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 12:47:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In my last newsletter I proposed that congress demand of all 501(c)(3) corporations that they disclose the top 20 people or organizations that are funding them. I want to know who this so-called free speech is coming from if I am to believe or act on their rhetoric.

I truly believe that if the protesters knew they were inadvertently supporting, say, the plans of the for-profit insurance industry, that many of them would realize that they are being led to slaughter and start acting on their own. 

There is absolutely nothing wrong with respectful protest, and I support that and would participate as well. But I want to know who I am in bed with, why they are in bed, and whether I am going to get screwed before I get out of it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my last newsletter I proposed that congress demand of all 501(c)(3) corporations that they disclose the top 20 people or organizations that are funding them. I want to know who this so-called free speech is coming from if I am to believe or act on their rhetoric.</p>
<p>I truly believe that if the protesters knew they were inadvertently supporting, say, the plans of the for-profit insurance industry, that many of them would realize that they are being led to slaughter and start acting on their own. </p>
<p>There is absolutely nothing wrong with respectful protest, and I support that and would participate as well. But I want to know who I am in bed with, why they are in bed, and whether I am going to get screwed before I get out of it.</p>
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		<title>By: MoneyedPoliticians</title>
		<link>http://moneyedpoliticians.net/2009/08/07/we-lost-a-little-bit-of-democracy-in-green-bay/#comment-887</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MoneyedPoliticians]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 03:47:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks Keith. I guess I&#039;ll always raise shackles as I put more weight on the pragmatic affects of policies on the nation (ie, American families, including my own), as opposed to being hung up on ideology. I suppose that&#039;s why my left wing friends call me a right wing wacko and the righties call me a left winger.

But you are absolutely correct. I see many right wingers listen to and blindly believe the lies of Limbaugh and Palin, even when the espoused solution is not in their own best interest and in some cases are very detrimental to their own families. I can&#039;t put ideology ahead of that, and I&#039;m sure you can&#039;t either. 

But on the plan being socialism, it isn&#039;t, as you know. But who in the hell would even care if it benefited the entire nation, as a single-payer system would. But we won&#039;t convince conservatives and we won&#039;t unconvince liberals. Why the right is even battling this is beyond me, because the folks with the $46 million in campaign contributions is doing battle for them.

And I agree Glenn. I don&#039;t think the public option is going to make it either, or even the single payer, all because of the $46 million in bribes. (But the right wingers think these options stand a chance or they wouldn&#039;t be bellowing. Go figure.)

We don&#039;t fully agree on the effects of the dollars, but you are right that the problem is systemic. There are only two kinds of money, public and private, and the system demands the latter.

My only concern with dealing with the smallest bank is they have limited services. But overall I agree. I stay away from BofA, mainly because they are part of the problem.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Keith. I guess I&#8217;ll always raise shackles as I put more weight on the pragmatic affects of policies on the nation (ie, American families, including my own), as opposed to being hung up on ideology. I suppose that&#8217;s why my left wing friends call me a right wing wacko and the righties call me a left winger.</p>
<p>But you are absolutely correct. I see many right wingers listen to and blindly believe the lies of Limbaugh and Palin, even when the espoused solution is not in their own best interest and in some cases are very detrimental to their own families. I can&#8217;t put ideology ahead of that, and I&#8217;m sure you can&#8217;t either. </p>
<p>But on the plan being socialism, it isn&#8217;t, as you know. But who in the hell would even care if it benefited the entire nation, as a single-payer system would. But we won&#8217;t convince conservatives and we won&#8217;t unconvince liberals. Why the right is even battling this is beyond me, because the folks with the $46 million in campaign contributions is doing battle for them.</p>
<p>And I agree Glenn. I don&#8217;t think the public option is going to make it either, or even the single payer, all because of the $46 million in bribes. (But the right wingers think these options stand a chance or they wouldn&#8217;t be bellowing. Go figure.)</p>
<p>We don&#8217;t fully agree on the effects of the dollars, but you are right that the problem is systemic. There are only two kinds of money, public and private, and the system demands the latter.</p>
<p>My only concern with dealing with the smallest bank is they have limited services. But overall I agree. I stay away from BofA, mainly because they are part of the problem.</p>
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		<title>By: Glenn Koenig</title>
		<link>http://moneyedpoliticians.net/2009/08/07/we-lost-a-little-bit-of-democracy-in-green-bay/#comment-886</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Glenn Koenig]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 03:00:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My most recent post does not reference (and therefore should not be construed to be critical of) the latest post by Keith Schmitz, as it was not yet present on this site when I began to write my comments.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My most recent post does not reference (and therefore should not be construed to be critical of) the latest post by Keith Schmitz, as it was not yet present on this site when I began to write my comments.</p>
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		<title>By: Glenn Koenig</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Glenn Koenig]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 02:52:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Fascinating discussion.  I do not think a public option, much less single payer medical coverage will be enacted in this round.  So please do not color me a socialist.  And I don&#039;t think publicly funded political campaigns will do enough to solve our problems, either, so I disagree with my esteemed colleague, Moneyed Politicians.  Neither do I believe that the so-called &quot;private sector&quot; as it is currently constructed holds the keys to any great solutions, either.  So don&#039;t call me a capitalist, either.  I happen to think that the &quot;free market&quot; is ruinous to quality medical care, actually.  So on the argument you seem to have been having, I think I stand on a third side, not on either of the two so far espoused.
I believe that the influence of money in government is a systemic problem, not one of personal corruption, necessitated by campaign costs to be covered for re-election.  It is the very SIZE and COMPLEXITY of our large organizations and government institutions that are the problem that is not being discussed here or, nay, in very many places at all at the moment.  I think it is absurd to expect any congressional representative to represent 3/4 of a million people!  I think it is foolish to call a bank that is &quot;too big to fail&quot; a private institution.  Hogwash.  It is a PUBLIC institution, not in the way that we vote it into power, but in how much power it now possesses over us, the public, due to its sheer size and influence.  It effectively controls the public coffers based on the threat that our economy will be ruined if we don&#039;t provide for it from tax revenue.
This has elevated the big banks and big medical insurance companies to a status practically equivalent to government itself.
I do not see more laws as an effective way out of this mess.  In the long run, morality cannot be legislated.  It is up to we, the people, to devote ourselves to the support of smaller institutions in every aspect of our lives, whether you call it socialist or capitalist or what you call it.  Please, bank at the smallest local bank you can find.  Or join a credit union.  Shop at the Farmer&#039;s Market if there is one near you.  Buy locally made merchandise whenever possible.  As much as you can, deal as directly with others, face to face, if possible.
I predict that such behavior will begin to pull the rug our from under the largest of institutions and begin to sap their power.
If you don&#039;t want the government in Washington to have so much power, show them that you don&#039;t need them.  You can manage your affairs, for the most part (of course not completely) at the local level.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fascinating discussion.  I do not think a public option, much less single payer medical coverage will be enacted in this round.  So please do not color me a socialist.  And I don&#8217;t think publicly funded political campaigns will do enough to solve our problems, either, so I disagree with my esteemed colleague, Moneyed Politicians.  Neither do I believe that the so-called &#8220;private sector&#8221; as it is currently constructed holds the keys to any great solutions, either.  So don&#8217;t call me a capitalist, either.  I happen to think that the &#8220;free market&#8221; is ruinous to quality medical care, actually.  So on the argument you seem to have been having, I think I stand on a third side, not on either of the two so far espoused.<br />
I believe that the influence of money in government is a systemic problem, not one of personal corruption, necessitated by campaign costs to be covered for re-election.  It is the very SIZE and COMPLEXITY of our large organizations and government institutions that are the problem that is not being discussed here or, nay, in very many places at all at the moment.  I think it is absurd to expect any congressional representative to represent 3/4 of a million people!  I think it is foolish to call a bank that is &#8220;too big to fail&#8221; a private institution.  Hogwash.  It is a PUBLIC institution, not in the way that we vote it into power, but in how much power it now possesses over us, the public, due to its sheer size and influence.  It effectively controls the public coffers based on the threat that our economy will be ruined if we don&#8217;t provide for it from tax revenue.<br />
This has elevated the big banks and big medical insurance companies to a status practically equivalent to government itself.<br />
I do not see more laws as an effective way out of this mess.  In the long run, morality cannot be legislated.  It is up to we, the people, to devote ourselves to the support of smaller institutions in every aspect of our lives, whether you call it socialist or capitalist or what you call it.  Please, bank at the smallest local bank you can find.  Or join a credit union.  Shop at the Farmer&#8217;s Market if there is one near you.  Buy locally made merchandise whenever possible.  As much as you can, deal as directly with others, face to face, if possible.<br />
I predict that such behavior will begin to pull the rug our from under the largest of institutions and begin to sap their power.<br />
If you don&#8217;t want the government in Washington to have so much power, show them that you don&#8217;t need them.  You can manage your affairs, for the most part (of course not completely) at the local level.</p>
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		<title>By: Keith Schmitz</title>
		<link>http://moneyedpoliticians.net/2009/08/07/we-lost-a-little-bit-of-democracy-in-green-bay/#comment-884</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Keith Schmitz]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 02:51:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great reading people who don&#039;t know what they are talking about.

First off, the proprietor of this blog who you claim is supporting a &quot;socialist&quot; health care plan happens to be a conservative Republican with perhaps ten times the business experience to you all put together, running successful companies.

So he knows what a detriment the current system has been. All of you howling socialism are defending a group of companies that has been one the biggest detriment to people getting into business and growing a business. 

It is just amazing that anyone would be so clueless as to defend something that has made all of our lives so difficult.

Freedom. My ass. What kind of freedom is it top be stuck in a job or even a marriage because the fear of losing health insurance? What kind of freedom is it  to find yourself financially bound and bound to die because your claim for a cancer treatment has been denied? Talk about your death panels.

With freedom comes responsibility. If you are going to go to a town hall and make a damned fool out of yourself you&#039;d better read up on what you are talking about, not take your information spoon fed from some insurance company lobbyist or a right wing media buffoon like Beck or Limbaugh.

You might feel soooo cool stepping up to the mike or shouting down a Congress member. But these people are human with a terrific sense of self and the last thing they will do is allow themselves to be bullied by hooting morons.

All of you who think that someday you too will be a millionaire appear to be totally unaware what a drag your company&#039;s health insurance costs are on your pay.

Big, bellowing men. You all are puppets for profit.

Your homework. Explain how this plan is socialism.

Your second assignment. Explain actually how &quot;tort reform&quot; will reduce costs? So what are you proposing? Not paying someone who was the victim of a botched procedure?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great reading people who don&#8217;t know what they are talking about.</p>
<p>First off, the proprietor of this blog who you claim is supporting a &#8220;socialist&#8221; health care plan happens to be a conservative Republican with perhaps ten times the business experience to you all put together, running successful companies.</p>
<p>So he knows what a detriment the current system has been. All of you howling socialism are defending a group of companies that has been one the biggest detriment to people getting into business and growing a business. </p>
<p>It is just amazing that anyone would be so clueless as to defend something that has made all of our lives so difficult.</p>
<p>Freedom. My ass. What kind of freedom is it top be stuck in a job or even a marriage because the fear of losing health insurance? What kind of freedom is it  to find yourself financially bound and bound to die because your claim for a cancer treatment has been denied? Talk about your death panels.</p>
<p>With freedom comes responsibility. If you are going to go to a town hall and make a damned fool out of yourself you&#8217;d better read up on what you are talking about, not take your information spoon fed from some insurance company lobbyist or a right wing media buffoon like Beck or Limbaugh.</p>
<p>You might feel soooo cool stepping up to the mike or shouting down a Congress member. But these people are human with a terrific sense of self and the last thing they will do is allow themselves to be bullied by hooting morons.</p>
<p>All of you who think that someday you too will be a millionaire appear to be totally unaware what a drag your company&#8217;s health insurance costs are on your pay.</p>
<p>Big, bellowing men. You all are puppets for profit.</p>
<p>Your homework. Explain how this plan is socialism.</p>
<p>Your second assignment. Explain actually how &#8220;tort reform&#8221; will reduce costs? So what are you proposing? Not paying someone who was the victim of a botched procedure?</p>
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