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	<title>Comments on: Business Community must get behind single-payer health insurance</title>
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	<description>It would not matter who got elected if cash bribes didn&#039;t change hands in the process.</description>
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		<title>By: How to pay for healthcare reform&#8230; &#171; Moneyed Politicians</title>
		<link>http://moneyedpoliticians.net/2009/05/22/business-community-must-get-behind-single-payer-health-insurance/#comment-759</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[How to pay for healthcare reform&#8230; &#171; Moneyed Politicians]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 08:53:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Medicare-for-all system makes sense not just for our citizens, but even more so for our businesses who are now spending 15% of wages to pay for health care. They cannot compete with foreign product [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Medicare-for-all system makes sense not just for our citizens, but even more so for our businesses who are now spending 15% of wages to pay for health care. They cannot compete with foreign product [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Why Single Payer health care? &#171; SinglePayer.info</title>
		<link>http://moneyedpoliticians.net/2009/05/22/business-community-must-get-behind-single-payer-health-insurance/#comment-742</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Why Single Payer health care? &#171; SinglePayer.info]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 13:49:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] We need a decision that makes the most sense to the economy and health of America &#8211; not to the insurance industry that has been draining business and public resources for years. Clearly, the business community must get behind single-payer health insurance. [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] We need a decision that makes the most sense to the economy and health of America &#8211; not to the insurance industry that has been draining business and public resources for years. Clearly, the business community must get behind single-payer health insurance. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Health care; the rest of the story &#171; Moneyed Politicians</title>
		<link>http://moneyedpoliticians.net/2009/05/22/business-community-must-get-behind-single-payer-health-insurance/#comment-706</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Health care; the rest of the story &#171; Moneyed Politicians]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 09:17:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] about health care. It affects every societal law and taxpayer dollar spent. It will also drive the success or failure of our business community. But our nation&#8217;s Board of Directors is taking cash bribes from the people that want in [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] about health care. It affects every societal law and taxpayer dollar spent. It will also drive the success or failure of our business community. But our nation&#8217;s Board of Directors is taking cash bribes from the people that want in [...]</p>
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		<title>By: MoneyedPoliticians</title>
		<link>http://moneyedpoliticians.net/2009/05/22/business-community-must-get-behind-single-payer-health-insurance/#comment-688</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MoneyedPoliticians]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 14:49:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks John. I have read Maggie&#039;s excellent book and anxiously await the movie. It will be good, and we need to get the politicians to watch it.

My book is self-published, mainly because I could and didn&#039;t want to spend the year finding a publisher. I&#039;d do it in soft cover next time, however.

If you send your address by email, to jelohman@gmail.com, I&#039;ll be happy to send you a copy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks John. I have read Maggie&#8217;s excellent book and anxiously await the movie. It will be good, and we need to get the politicians to watch it.</p>
<p>My book is self-published, mainly because I could and didn&#8217;t want to spend the year finding a publisher. I&#8217;d do it in soft cover next time, however.</p>
<p>If you send your address by email, to <a href="mailto:jelohman@gmail.com">jelohman@gmail.com</a>, I&#8217;ll be happy to send you a copy.</p>
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		<title>By: John Freeland</title>
		<link>http://moneyedpoliticians.net/2009/05/22/business-community-must-get-behind-single-payer-health-insurance/#comment-687</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Freeland]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 14:37:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jack:
Good work on the article at Business Times. Maggie Maher over at the blog &quot;Health Beat&quot; has an independent film coming out called &quot;Money-driven Medicen&quot; based on her book of the same title. You might want to watch for that. 

Also, who is your book publisher? Are you satisfied with them?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jack:<br />
Good work on the article at Business Times. Maggie Maher over at the blog &#8220;Health Beat&#8221; has an independent film coming out called &#8220;Money-driven Medicen&#8221; based on her book of the same title. You might want to watch for that. </p>
<p>Also, who is your book publisher? Are you satisfied with them?</p>
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		<title>By: MoneyedPoliticians</title>
		<link>http://moneyedpoliticians.net/2009/05/22/business-community-must-get-behind-single-payer-health-insurance/#comment-685</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MoneyedPoliticians]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 May 2009 23:59:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yea, Scott, you are right. If Obama pushed this and campaign reform through we&#039;d have Decocratic control for at least two decades. But I really don&#039;t know if the senate is smart enough. Baucus and others are so tied into insurance dollars that they may kill their chances. And Kohl and Feingold are just sitting it out.

And disruptive? How difficult would it be to start enrolling patients into Medicare. Could you have misunderstood him? It would certainly disrupt the cash flow to the insurance industry.  :-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yea, Scott, you are right. If Obama pushed this and campaign reform through we&#8217;d have Decocratic control for at least two decades. But I really don&#8217;t know if the senate is smart enough. Baucus and others are so tied into insurance dollars that they may kill their chances. And Kohl and Feingold are just sitting it out.</p>
<p>And disruptive? How difficult would it be to start enrolling patients into Medicare. Could you have misunderstood him? It would certainly disrupt the cash flow to the insurance industry.  <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Scott Carlo</title>
		<link>http://moneyedpoliticians.net/2009/05/22/business-community-must-get-behind-single-payer-health-insurance/#comment-684</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Scott Carlo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 May 2009 23:50:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks Jack for a succinct outline of how our politicians are fast at work burying the American dream.  The &quot;Big Three&quot; 2 of whom are bankrupt, are known, not as car companies,  but as health insurance companies who make cars so great is their burden in healthcare costs.  Yet Obama doesn&#039;t wish to &quot;disrupt&quot; the broken healthcare system we now have fast draining away the competitive advantage we, as the hardest working populace in the world, once enjoyed. Well, John Kennedy had to be persuaded to support the civil rights legislation he once resisted and I suppose single payer will be the same for Barack.  He might not yet understand but should he champion and pass single payer it&#039;ll be the most durable legacy of his presidency eclipsing even his achievement of the first African American to hold this highest office in America.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Jack for a succinct outline of how our politicians are fast at work burying the American dream.  The &#8220;Big Three&#8221; 2 of whom are bankrupt, are known, not as car companies,  but as health insurance companies who make cars so great is their burden in healthcare costs.  Yet Obama doesn&#8217;t wish to &#8220;disrupt&#8221; the broken healthcare system we now have fast draining away the competitive advantage we, as the hardest working populace in the world, once enjoyed. Well, John Kennedy had to be persuaded to support the civil rights legislation he once resisted and I suppose single payer will be the same for Barack.  He might not yet understand but should he champion and pass single payer it&#8217;ll be the most durable legacy of his presidency eclipsing even his achievement of the first African American to hold this highest office in America.</p>
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		<title>By: MoneyedPoliticians</title>
		<link>http://moneyedpoliticians.net/2009/05/22/business-community-must-get-behind-single-payer-health-insurance/#comment-681</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MoneyedPoliticians]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 14:55:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ken, of course I’m for “freedom,” but I am also not so ideologically blind as to discard pragmatism. 

Yes, if 100% of American citizens were 100% honest, your system of freedom would work. But I hate to break it to you, we have crooks among us and we need regulations. Now there, I’ve popped your balloon.

And yes, I could even buy your “opt out” of the public health care system if I knew that when you got old and sick and unemployed and in need of help, or one of your kids was diagnosed with childhood diabetes or other disease that the for-profit insurers wouldn’t cover, you wouldn’t then be able to go onto the public dole after not paying into the system. But that’s not what happens in America. Even progressives have “values.”]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ken, of course I’m for “freedom,” but I am also not so ideologically blind as to discard pragmatism. </p>
<p>Yes, if 100% of American citizens were 100% honest, your system of freedom would work. But I hate to break it to you, we have crooks among us and we need regulations. Now there, I’ve popped your balloon.</p>
<p>And yes, I could even buy your “opt out” of the public health care system if I knew that when you got old and sick and unemployed and in need of help, or one of your kids was diagnosed with childhood diabetes or other disease that the for-profit insurers wouldn’t cover, you wouldn’t then be able to go onto the public dole after not paying into the system. But that’s not what happens in America. Even progressives have “values.”</p>
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		<title>By: Ken Van Doren</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ken Van Doren]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 14:21:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jack:

I have tried and failed to get you to see the danger and illogic of your position.  Monopolies are almost universally a bad thing.  Politics is ALWAYS corrupt.  And you want to turn over 1/6th of our economy to a den of thieves???  And most of the problems of our medical system are a result of previous government interventions.  Seems obvious-limited government means lower costs, more innovation, lower taxes, more competition in health care and in other market sectors.  But you persist in pursuing folly...

But what of this.  You apparently are an enemy of freedom.  I would never endorse your position, but if you allow &quot;opt out&quot; provisions, so any person or any institution that does not want to participate be allowed to, and with that, pay a lower tax rate.  That way your system and the (somewhat) free market can compete.  Oh, and if we opt out, we do not have to pay the higher taxes your proposal would require.

So do you believe we should be a free people?  NO?  I did not think so....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jack:</p>
<p>I have tried and failed to get you to see the danger and illogic of your position.  Monopolies are almost universally a bad thing.  Politics is ALWAYS corrupt.  And you want to turn over 1/6th of our economy to a den of thieves???  And most of the problems of our medical system are a result of previous government interventions.  Seems obvious-limited government means lower costs, more innovation, lower taxes, more competition in health care and in other market sectors.  But you persist in pursuing folly&#8230;</p>
<p>But what of this.  You apparently are an enemy of freedom.  I would never endorse your position, but if you allow &#8220;opt out&#8221; provisions, so any person or any institution that does not want to participate be allowed to, and with that, pay a lower tax rate.  That way your system and the (somewhat) free market can compete.  Oh, and if we opt out, we do not have to pay the higher taxes your proposal would require.</p>
<p>So do you believe we should be a free people?  NO?  I did not think so&#8230;.</p>
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